Review of Dave Matson’s Commentary (Part 1)
I want to thank Dave Matson, first
of all, for taking the time to read and respond to the Spring 2004 ITW
Newsletter. It’s a nice reminder that
both believers and non-believers take the time to read the content of ITW. So as I respond argumentatively at some
points to Mr. Matson’s commentary, I don’t
want anyone to think that I don’t appreciate his response. I’m responding only to his commentary on my
articles (Introduction to an
Object of Faith and It’s a
Bird, It’s a Plane…Its Superman!) and Mark has responded to Mr. Matson’s
commentary on his article (A
Believer Objectively Comments on the Resurrection of
Jesus).
In the final statement of Dave
Matson’s commentary, he writes, “While Jesus, the person, may have existed…we
skeptics do not see any good reasons for believing in Jesus’ resurrection and
other miracles, despite our own efforts at careful, objective study.” That statement should be instructive to every
Christian who has read my articles and Dave’s commentary. For certainly when we Christians talk about
the Bible’s credibility in historical details, the red flag of doubt is waved by
the non-believer at the appearance of anything that we commonly call a
“miracle”. And we should never be
surprised because all of us, if we are honest, have some trouble believing
anyone’s testimony about the occurrence of uncommon and/or amazing things –
especially that which we have not experienced ourselves. And we’ve all run into people who will tell
tall tales to manipulate others into believing and acting certain ways. This is something that I mentioned briefly in
my article, Introduction to an
Object of Faith. I’m glad that
Mr. Matson helps me to drive the main point of that article home - that
Christian belief in the resurrection of Jesus Christ is one that, if honest, is
held in the midst of reasons to doubt.
It is way beyond my purpose here to
defend Biblical miracles in this reply, but I want to say a few things
here. As much as I believe that God has
answered my prayers, and has even communicated to me in some unexpected ways
(with confirmation), the Bible records some events that I can’t relate to in my
own experience. However, the Bible does
not teach that such events (miracles) are normal or that they are to be expected
experiences for all persons. Personally,
I have experienced enough to believe that God exists and that He can do all of
the other things that I have not experienced, as He deems necessary. I believe that God has performed miracles as
described in the Bible. Nevertheless,
there are chapters and books on the subject of miracles that ITW readers should
read in consideration of such an issue.
I recommend two critical articles by Michael Fisher (atheist):
Miracles and Christian History at http://atheism.about.com/religion/atheism/library/weekly/aa041900a.htm and Naturalism vs. Supernaturalism at
http://atheism.about.com/religion/atheism/library/weekly/aa053100a.htm
. As far as Christian arguments, I
recommend two chapters from C.S. Lewis’ book God in the Dock
(ISBN: 0802808689), (chapter 2: “Miracles”,
and chapter 9: “The Grand Miracle”), and also his book entitled Miracles
(ISBN: 0060653019).
Back to Mr. Matson’s commentary:
Dave pulled out the bullwhip on me for being “encouraged by the historical
nature of the Bible.” In some attempt to
correct me, he mentions several of the Bible problems that he must think I’ve
never considered. Certainly I
acknowledge, as I did in my “Intro” article, that there are several items in the
New Testament, and the Bible in general, that are in critical dispute. It is not my intent here to argue the
specifics that he mentioned, nor was
it my intent to mention and solve all of the Bible difficulties in my
article. It would be proper to discuss
these at greater length with articles dedicated to each individual problem
(Noah,
Now, let me criticize Mr. Matson’s
“commentary” on a few points. First, he
started his commentary musing that he could envision Mark and I discussing the
details in “
Secondly, Matson’s
comparison of the gospels with “
Let me also criticize Dave Matson’s
loaded statements about what scholars think of the gospels. Certainly he couldn’t have been thinking of
the opinion of all scholars, but he called them “mainstream” so as to have
readers suppose that most scholars suggest what he thinks. Perhaps he should have provided a list of
scholars, and then I could have returned fire with a list of my own in
disagreement. Nevertheless, let me
simply say that his bias is reflected in the unnamed scholars that he is calling
“mainstream”.
Another shortcoming in that
segment of Dave’s commentary is that he was not readily admitting the amount of
speculation behind what these “mainstream” scholars suppose. In one short paragraph, Matson announced his
understanding of the literary relationships of the gospels, and the pre-literary
history of the gospels, as if stating a matter of fact. However, such issues have not provided
scholars with proven answers. Perhaps
Dave has solved these matters making him a “Superman” among scholars? I doubt it.
However, let me admire him for appearing to take a position on the
gospels that I have not witnessed many other secular critics propose (these
days). I interpret him as saying that
the gospels were written independently and based on oral traditions that
circulated in Christian communities prior to them being written down. I can appreciate that. However, it is purely speculative of him (and
others) to suppose that it was the communities that developed the
traditions (or gospel stories and sayings) to meet their needs. Robert H. Stein in his book, Studying the Synoptic Gospels- Origin and Interpretation
(ISBN 0801022584), argues that the presence
of problematic gospel materials and the lack of gospel materials to directly
address several issues of the early church (circumcision, church polity,
speaking in tongues, etc.) offers evidence that the gospel writers were faithful
to the tradition they received instead of freely developing their own to meet
the needs or desires of their communities.
Stein goes into greater detail, and those interested should read chapters
7 & 8 of his book for the full argument.
In support of Matson’s
gospel-development theory, he boldly stated that the gospels “were never meant
to be laid side by side!” I agree that
the gospel authors did not envision side by side gospel synopses. But look what we see when we place the
gospels side by side! (See ITW Gospel Synopses.) If anything is “plain as a pikestaff”, it is
that three of the gospels (Matthew, Mark, & Luke) share common detail and
wording to the point that loyalty to a fixed tradition (or their source) is a
greater likelihood than that individual “communities” created their own stories
or altered the tradition (or source) with much freedom. True, we find some differences when gospels
account for the same events or teachings. Such may hint at each writer’s
theological focuses or attempts at clarification to the common tradition. Differences may also reflect variations in
the gospel tradition due to oral transmission.
There are also events and/or sermons that are not shared by all of the
gospels, but only one or two. However,
this kind of difference may merely suggest that more happened in the life of
Christ than is accounted for in any one gospel – even more than all of them
together (John 20:30 & 21:25). All of this suggests that Matson’s theory of
gospel origins and development, stated as some sort of fact, is really more of a
speculation – an opinion of his that only some scholars may share with him in
some aspects. What he presented
is a theory that looks at some of the evidence, takes a few scholars at their
opinionated word, and states his belief that the gospels must be works of
fictional development. In order to
justify his “matter of fact” statements on the origins of the gospels and their
dates of authorship, he needs to be able to solve a few issues (such as the
Synoptic Problem) that many scholars have various opinions to, but no definite
nor proven answers. Unless he is the greatest scholar of our age, or
at least knows something that the scholars don’t, then let me say that his
statements about gospel origins was written with unwarranted confidence. To his credit, he is no worse than most Bible
critics in that regard.
That’s all I have for this response
to Dave Matson’s commentary. I’m glad
for his response, and I hope that we have all learned something as a result of
his participation.
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CHRONOLOGICAL TABLE OF THIS DISCUSSION
1) Introduction to an Object of
Faith
(Believing the Resurrection Story of Jesus Christ) - by Brian
Lawson
2) A Believer Objectively Comments on the
Resurrection of Jesus - by Mark
McFall
3) It's a Bird...It's a Plane...It's
Superman!
(Identifying the Resurrection Body of Jesus) - by Brian
Lawson
4)
5) Brian
Lawson's Response to Dave Matson's Commentary
6) Mark McFall's
Response to Dave Matson's Commentary
7) Dave Matson's Reaction
8) Concluding Remarks in a Discussion with
Dave Matson
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